AXBB-E and Metronix APD-VS04NL Drives

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Re: AXBB-E and Metronix APD-VS04NL Drives

Postby paulmacc21 » Sun Dec 22, 2024 3:28 pm

Battwell, yep already set on 200khz. As per the youtube video(1st post) I have the drive wired so no errors, Alarm is clear, display shows "000000"(ready) and motor is powered and holding and settings have been changed for Position Control(as per video). The youtuber connects uses Step - , Dir - and +5v on AXBB-E. I tried this first then tried Step+, Dir+ and 0v, but no luck.

Just realised there's 3 errors in my first post on re-reading;
"9 Step + -------------- O9 Step +" should read "9 Step - ---------------- O9 Step -"
"11 Dir - ---------------- O10 Dir –" should read "12 Dir - ----------------- O10 Dir -"
"10, 12 (Step-, Dir-) -- 0v(5v)" should read " 9, 11 (Step+, Dir+) -- +5v"

Think I was getting my pins confused. ;-)

RsX, yes changed the pins in UCCNC. Just went to try the multimeter, but fuse is blown on the mA input, so will have to wait till after Christmas before I can get some fuses as I'll have to get them off ebay, live on farm in Western Australia, so no local shops.

Thank you both for helping, hopefully I can get it working with help. :-)
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Re: AXBB-E and Metronix APD-VS04NL Drives

Postby RsX » Mon Dec 23, 2024 6:04 pm

paulmacc21 wrote:"9 Step - ---------------- O9 Step -"
"12 Dir - ----------------- O10 Dir -"
" 9, 11 (Step+, Dir+) -- +5v"

This makes more sense, but still not quite there.

This is correct
"10 Step - ---------------- O9 Step -"
"12 Dir - ----------------- O10 Dir -"
" 9, 11 (Step+, Dir+) -- +5v"

This is the schematic
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Or like this. Dealer's choice
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http://www.ehaegypt.com/uploads/vsmanual_rmzimqkr.pdf
When the power supply 24[V] is used: Resistance R=1500 ohm, 1/2W
When the power supply 12[V] is used: Resistance R=560~680 ohm, 1/2W
When the power supply 5 [V] is used: Resistance R=100~150 ohm, 1/2W

There is some confusion about the resistor values. But these seems right.
Two 100~150 ohm resitors are needed at 5V.

This is how you should test the current with the multimeter
s7.png

If the current is too low maybe you can remove the resistor, but if you get no current at all, the optocouplers are far gone.
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Re: AXBB-E and Metronix APD-VS04NL Drives

Postby paulmacc21 » Wed Feb 12, 2025 8:57 am

Well, after some neck surgery to fuse a couple of vertebra together with a bit of hip bone, I'm back to playing with this again. :)

So, testing the opto couplers as suggested I get 15mA or there abouts on each, so they appear to be ok, but still get no movement on the motor, or anything on the Drive LED display. As stated before drive energizes and holds the motor so it is in READY state and there are no alarms, but pulses seem to be been ignored from the AXBB, so am assuming there is something not correct in the way I have set the drive to Position MODE. I can put it in TEST mode and the motor moves at least but that's all.

Have tried changing the displayed data to "Pd-004 Current Pulse - Indicates cumulative value of position command Pulse that are input from external device.", but again it shows no pulse count. I have managed to find and download the PC setup software and buy a serial cable for the CN3 port that should allow me to check and make changes to settings from within a windows program and do diags from there too. MAY help me find a missing or miss set setting but if not I'm just going to have to give up and replace the drives and probably motors too. Very Annoying.
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Re: AXBB-E and Metronix APD-VS04NL Drives

Postby cncdrive » Wed Feb 12, 2025 5:00 pm

The non isolated outputs you can connect both ways, because they are buffer drivers.
The isolated outputs you can connect only with the output connected to the negative input and the positive input is connected to the +5V or +24V.
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Re: AXBB-E and Metronix APD-VS04NL Drives

Postby paulmacc21 » Thu Feb 13, 2025 3:02 am

Thanks for the reply cncdrive, I have tried the port 1 non isolated outputs both ways and the isolated port 1 outputs as you have stated, but just not getting anything on the drive. I have tested the AXBB with a stepper motor and drive and all works fine, so can only concluded at that I have missed something on the APD-VS drive configuration that is making it ignore the pulses. As I said in my first post it was setup as analog torque control (using Mach4 and an obsolete Analog controller) and was working . I used the youtube video (mentioned 1st post) I found to guide me how to change it to position control, but maybe there is a step he has not mentioned in his video or I've just missed something somehow? I have read thru the manual back to front and it seems quite simple to set it to Position control, but not for me. :?

Will wait now until I get the CN3 cable so I can connect to the drive thru the Windows setup program I finally managed to find (Buried on a Korean language only website :? ) , as that will be alot easier than the LED screen and buttons on the drive and there as some basic diag functions with that too.
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Re: AXBB-E and Metronix APD-VS04NL Drives

Postby paulmacc21 » Sat Mar 29, 2025 4:55 am

Well, back at it again. Having found the windows config software ("Mecapion Communication") and a suitable CN3 to serial converter to USB cable, I have been able to connect to the drives and view the config data thru the software. Alot easier that doing it thru the LED display and buttons on the drive. Also I can download all the settings as a PDF doc, so I can compare what's different between Pulse and Torque control modes.

Here's what I can see below when set in Position/Pulse control. "P Control" doesn't seem to do anything and I think is used for the mixed mode "Speed/Position" control. Apart from that the I/O State between Pulse and Torque Modes seems the same, so I'm back to either and missing option not being set on the drive or it not liking the way it's receiving the pulse/dir signals. In frustration I hooked up a Masso G3 Touch controller to the drive (as shown here https://www.forum.cncdrive.com/download/file.php?id=5012&mode=view, 1st option) to see if that would move it but no luck. This was how they said to connect it for a similar type drive in their docs. I'm quite sure it's just something I'm doing wrong but can't see it. I'll include the PDF of the settings I'm using for Position mode, compared to the original setting(that worked!) for torque mode.
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APD-VS settings.pdf
Pulse settings compared to Original Torque Settings
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Can Change Some settings here temporarily
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Detailed live settings
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Live settings Overview
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