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3500x2200mm CNC Build with UCCNC

Postby RRocadas » Wed May 06, 2020 9:12 am

Hi everyone
This is my first post on a cnc forum, thank you for accepting me here.
I have build in past 2018 a Openbuilds solution with arduino the ox cnc version with 1500x1500mm.
After two months i extended the base to 1500x3000mm until now that i have decided to build a new one more stronger and a little bigger.
So this post start with my first wirings and case mounting with UCCNC installed and runing one axis in test.
I'm upgrading my knowledge from Grbl 1.1f to UCCNC and i must say this software is very very good and impressive.

Here are some images, i will updating posts for this build and will make a final manual installation of this Machine in the end.
Layoutcase.jpg
Layout of wiring and case.


Wiring-Case.jpg
Wiring


Motorsmounted.jpg
Motors mounted CNC Router Parts Plate


Plate_cncrouterpartdesign.jpg
CNC Router Parts Done.


Plate-mounted-detail.jpg
Plate mounted


Axisdetail.jpg
One axis detail
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Re: 3500x2200mm CNC Build with UCCNC

Postby cncdrive » Wed May 13, 2020 9:34 pm

Looks good. :)
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Re: 3500x2200mm CNC Build with UCCNC

Postby RRocadas » Thu May 14, 2020 10:46 pm

cncdrive wrote:Looks good. :)


Thank you.
I'm wiring now all together and testing some measurements to fine tune the motors and axis.
It's very dificult here in Portugal to find some tools to make precise things.

It's the first time i'm installing hi win guides and a rack and pinion system.
When i slide the axis it's very smooth on all dimension of the axis so i thing it's ok.

Pinion_Mounted.jpeg
Testing Motor mount


Soldering_XYZ.jpeg
XYZ Wiring
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Re: 3500x2200mm CNC Build with UCCNC

Postby NikolayUA24 » Fri May 15, 2020 6:23 am

Each controller personal power supply is an unjustified cash expense.
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Re: 3500x2200mm CNC Build with UCCNC

Postby RRocadas » Fri May 15, 2020 11:33 am

NikolayUA24 wrote:Each controller personal power supply is an unjustified cash expense.


Thank you Nikolay, perhaps you are wright, i also thought that.

Here is my sepc for motor and drivers:
Part No.: 86HBM100-1000 (Nema 34 Closed Loop)
Frame Size: NEMA34
Step Angle: 1.8 degree
Voltage: 3.6 V
Current: 6.0A/phase
Resistance: 0.55 Ohm/phase
Inductance: 8.4 mH/phase
Holding torque: 12N.m 1700oz-in
Rotor inertia: 3600g-cm2
Number of wire leads: 4
Weight: 7kg
Length: 171mm

My drive is a SS880 ( Hybrid Step Servo Driver)
- 32-bit DSP based vector control algorithm to combine advantage of open-loop stepper brushless servo drives
- Step/Direction or CW/CCW command input
- Default maximum 200K frequency; 500K optional
- Input voltage: 20-80 VAC, or 36-110 VDC
- Load-based automatically adjusted output current of 0-8.2A

My power suplies are 350w, 60 VDC, 5.6A with input 220v / 110v

For the 4 motors what you thing it would be enouth? Because i can keep the others for replacement when one shutsdown or damage.
It's enough to put just one for all 4 axis?

One of the motors is runing, very smooth and very quiet without measurements until now just testing speeds, motor went to 20000 mm/m without problems with uccnc.
I did not continue the test because i had not the motor fixed to anything but i think this motors can go much further, but for my work i doubt i will need somthing more that 5k.

thank you for your help and comment.
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Re: 3500x2200mm CNC Build with UCCNC

Postby NikolayUA24 » Fri May 15, 2020 1:33 pm

Inductance is a large motor: 8.4 mH/phase, 60 volts for the driver will be small.
For an engine with this inductance, 100 VDC is needed.
SS880 driver (Hybrid Step Servo Driver) power 100 VDC
You can try to reduce the voltage to 50 volts on power supplies and connect in series.
Calculation of the maximum working speed of the stepper motor https://www.precision-machines.ru/page/ ... calculator
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Re: 3500x2200mm CNC Build with UCCNC

Postby RRocadas » Fri May 15, 2020 2:46 pm

NikolayUA24 wrote:Inductance is a large motor: 8.4 mH/phase, 60 volts for the driver will be small.
For an engine with this inductance, 100 VDC is needed.
SS880 driver (Hybrid Step Servo Driver) power 100 VDC
You can try to reduce the voltage to 50 volts on power supplies and connect in series.
Calculation of the maximum working speed of the stepper motor https://www.precision-machines.ru/page/ ... calculator


Oh my God!;-(
How many torque can i loose for now for each motor if i turn on with this configuration? About 40%?
I didn´t expect this, i order the complete kit and thought it was ok.
For now and to finish the project i have to put this and star thinking to order new ones if necessary.
thank you for your help i guess i will need for this.
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Re: 3500x2200mm CNC Build with UCCNC

Postby NikolayUA24 » Fri May 15, 2020 5:10 pm

You always have time to buy. We expose on power supplies of 55 volts and connect in series. We get a power supply of 700 watts 110 volts 5.6 amperes.
Schottky diode I set VS-30CPQ150PBF
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Re: 3500x2200mm CNC Build with UCCNC

Postby RRocadas » Fri May 15, 2020 6:01 pm

NikolayUA24 wrote:You always have time to buy. We expose on power supplies of 55 volts and connect in series. We get a power supply of 700 watts 110 volts 5.6 amperes.
Schottky diode I set VS-30CPQ150PBF


Thank you Nikolay for this information, i will google for wiring in future.
Perhaps i will lose torque from 12 to 7kn/m.

Since i'm using on older build nema 23 with arduino, i think i will not notice that i guess.
But it will be something i will consider in near future.

thanks
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Re: 3500x2200mm CNC Build with UCCNC

Postby RRocadas » Mon May 25, 2020 3:20 pm

I'm finishing the box case now but i'm with some questions and don´t know if this is the right place or i need to ask or see post links with this answers.
What i want to do is to put buttons/switches on the case to Start Cycle, Pause/Stop Cycle and Resume Cycle, is this possible?
Another feature i want to try is when i power on the machine, do a automatic home and probe whatever the tool is inserted.
This is because i will have for about 5 or 6 routine cycles to cut circles (top tables) always with same standart dimensions and anyone can load the mdf, power on the machine and open file and start.
Thank you in advance, regards.
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