Highly Modified Taig with R8 Spindle/PDB and DMM 750W Servo

[spumco]

FYI, might not be what you are looking for, but the spindle I'm using is being sold on the Taig facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/524365887660604/) with PDB and motor mounts for DMM servos. No idea if it's heavy duty enough for your machine, but these are very nice spindles for smaller mills like mine.

Thanks, but I've already got the spindle, drive and motor - just need to install them. 3HP 6Krpm Parker servo and a BT30 spindle with ceramic bearings, plus a PDB matched to the spindle. Only problem is that I have to bore out the head 10mm to fit the spindle.

And Terry's right about the ATC control side of things. I can probably figure out the mechanical stuff, but controlling an ATC is another animal indeed.

-R

[ThreeDJ16]

FYI, might not be what you are looking for, but the spindle I'm using is being sold on the Taig facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/524365887660604/) with PDB and motor mounts for DMM servos. No idea if it's heavy duty enough for your machine, but these are very nice spindles for smaller mills like mine.

Thanks, but I've already got the spindle, drive and motor - just need to install them. 3HP 6Krpm Parker servo and a BT30 spindle with ceramic bearings, plus a PDB matched to the spindle. Only problem is that I have to bore out the head 10mm to fit the spindle.

And Terry's right about the ATC control side of things. I can probably figure out the mechanical stuff, but controlling an ATC is another animal indeed.

-R

Yeah, right now I'm just burying my head in the sand as I'm brain fried from trying to run through what all needs to happen with controlling the ATC we are (maybe were) planning. Really I guess it is pointless to continue down the dual arm road if we can't write to the table without saving the profile (which seems to be my understanding at the moment). Honestly if the slot doesn't get moved to the main table, I think this is going to suck anyway. Having to dig several layers just to swap around slot/tool numbers when I change out tools in the ATC doesn't really leave me enthused. So I may just look at a different solution all together. No idea yet.....I need an emoticon for fried eggs....as that's how I feel after working two long nights in a row trying to figure this out.

[cncdrive]

Maybe you will find this ATC project useful: https://cnc4pc.com/forum/projects/tool- ... -for-uccnc

[ThreeDJ16]

Maybe you will find this ATC project useful: https://cnc4pc.com/forum/projects/tool- ... -for-uccnc

Thanks, but he appears to just be using a set number of tool and swapping the same tool in and out of the same slot. For what I need, the slot and tool will have to be written on the fly as they will change during an operation. Once tool 1 has probed the top of the part and tool 3/slot 3 is called, now tool 1 will go into slot 3, and will be tool 1/slot 3, tool 11/slot 11 is called, now tool 3 will go into slot 11, so on and so on. The tool # in use will be going into the slot number for the next tool called each tool change and has to be updated when that happens. So I have no clue how this will be done with the current tool table configuration.

[Battwell]

Doing teh hardware side is not too hard to do But the dual arm, Look ahead, hot swap M6 scripting can be a beast to make work in UCCNC as you cannot write to teh tool table from script. And it takes a LOT of outputs and inputs to make happen.


You may want to take a wack at teh M6 macro to run it FIRST before you commit to the hardware side.

A single arm ATC is much easier to do from the scripting side. You can still run it with a Side mount carrousel to save room.

Then later you may be able to work out a dual arm setup and convert what you have.

IF you need help I can show you what I know.

Just a thought, (;-) TP

Hi terry. What data can't be written to the tool table by script?

[ger21]

For what I need, the slot and tool will have to be written on the fly as they will change during an operation. Once tool 1 has probed the top of the part and tool 3/slot 3 is called, now tool 1 will go into slot 3, and will be tool 1/slot 3, tool 11/slot 11 is called, now tool 3 will go into slot 11, so on and so on. The tool # in use will be going into the slot number for the next tool called each tool change and has to be updated when that happens. So I have no clue how this will be done with the current tool table configuration.

While maybe not ideal, it would be pretty simple to add your own fields for slot # and use those instead of the tool table. Doesn't seem like it would be that much code at all.

[Battwell]

That's what I did for my linear changer- so I could use any tool number
E.g. Put tool 27 in slot 8
M6 checks if tool is available in any tool slot then loads it if available.
Makes it very fast to change slot content on screen when loading required tools for the job.
It's also saved immediately to profile so can be recalled and automatically re populated on startup.
( did this before slots were added in tool table)
Also makes it very fast to do a sanity check of all tools comparing to the rack direct from the run screen.- can check the Gcode tool list direct to what's in the rack or carousel.
Has worked great.
https://youtu.be/PGzKizWuafo

[ThreeDJ16]

That's what I did for my linear changer- so I could use any tool number
E.g. Put tool 27 in slot 8
M6 checks if tool is available in any tool slot then loads it if available.
Makes it very fast to change slot content on screen when loading required tools for the job.
It's also saved immediately to profile so can be recalled and automatically re populated on startup.
( did this before slots were added in tool table)
Also makes it very fast to do a sanity check of all tools comparing to the rack direct from the run screen.- can check the Gcode tool list direct to what's in the rack or carousel.
Has worked great.
https://youtu.be/PGzKizWuafo

That's an interesting approach and very nice having it on the main screen. Any chance you added some of that code to the macro section already so I can browse through it?

Thanks,
-=J

[ThreeDJ16]

For what I need, the slot and tool will have to be written on the fly as they will change during an operation. Once tool 1 has probed the top of the part and tool 3/slot 3 is called, now tool 1 will go into slot 3, and will be tool 1/slot 3, tool 11/slot 11 is called, now tool 3 will go into slot 11, so on and so on. The tool # in use will be going into the slot number for the next tool called each tool change and has to be updated when that happens. So I have no clue how this will be done with the current tool table configuration.

While maybe not ideal, it would be pretty simple to add your own fields for slot # and use those instead of the tool table. Doesn't seem like it would be that much code at all.

I'd complemplated doing that to start, but then saw there was now a new tool table with slots and thought using what was available might be easier. Then after reading posts from others, seems using the detail tool table isn't so easy..LOL. So yeah, guess I'm back to adding my own somewhere. Really like how Batwell did his, I just suck at creating the layout if I have to use any photo programs.

[Vmax549]

Hi Battwell as far as I can see nothing can be written directly to the tool table . There is NO function to do that.

(;-) TP